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tightbunz
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Join date: Jan 2006
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Hi everybody,
I've never posted on T-Nation or MWA before, but I really don't know where else I can get help. If anybody underwent the same problem or has any solutions, please share them with me.

I'm currently 22 years old, 5'4" and 125lbs at about 23% bodyfat. I started changing my eating habits and sedentary lifestyle about 1.5 years ago, when I met my personal trainer boyfriend. Everything started well. Eating 6 meals a day and training about 3-4 times a week wasn't a problem.

I've once dropped down to 19% bodyfat after eating 100% clean and training frequently for about 3-4 weeks, and boy did I love how I looked and felt. I was amazed by the motivation I had and how quick I saw results.

But, there's a huge problem I have and it's the main reason why my progress has been fluctuating. I'm very emotional, and I, like many women, head to food for instant gratification when I get slightly upset or suffer from an emotional breakdown.

However, it's not as simple as eating a chocolate bar. At times, I eat till I'm overly stuffed, and continue to eat until my stomach starts to hurt. It has gotten a little better now, but all I want is to get rid of it, completely.

It's driving me insane ... I feel like a drug addict who needs rehab. I mean, I've done it before - I've dropped from where I originally started, 23%, to a 19%. Due to my binging problem, unfortunately, I've went back up to a 23% (with some muscle gain). I'm dying to get back to 19% and reach my goal of 15% ... and maybe lower in the future.

I don't just need a kick in the ass, because I've kicked myself many, many times. Yeah, after the kick, I may stop binging for a few days, or weeks, and start complying with the 90% adherence rule again, but once I get depressed, everything goes out of hand.

What advice can you ladies (or men) share with me?

Thanks for your time and I can't wait to hear from you.

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Blacksnake
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Join date: Sep 2005
Location: California, USA
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tightbunz wrote:
after eating 100% clean and training frequently for about 3-4 weeks, and boy did I love how I looked and felt. I was amazed by the motivation I had and how quick I saw results...

{Warning: Politically Incorrect commentary to follow}...
There's the crux...I've seen this before with natural mesomorphic types...Although you will deny it, the fact is you have gotten into shape before with minimal suffering and know you can do it again, despite the overindulgences and protestations...

Do you realize how many people would kill to be able to get in shape in a mere few weeks of proper diet and excercise?

Genetic gifts like yours will not tend to evoke much simpatico with the majority, who have to work like hell for every scrap of progress...Keeping a food log will help you..Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear...

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figurediva
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Join date: May 2007
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Hey Girl!

I just read your post and here are my comments/suggestions:

1) I have also been in the "diet/binge" cycle and I think a lot of us have. You are not alone, and there IS a way out of this cycle.

2) Find other things to do when you feel that "urge" coming on. Here are some suggestions that will make you feel better:

-go for a walk with your iPod/music on at a place that makes you feel good (for me, the beach)
-call a friend
-post on this message board/keep a journal
-pamper yourself, take a long shower/bath, do your hair, paint your nails, do your makeup and put on a nice outfit. Who cares if you have no where to go. It will make you feel GOOD about yourself

3) Realize that your nutrition plan DOES influence your hormones. In other words: the plan your boyfriend had you on produced results, but they did come FAST. 4% bodyfat loss in 4 weeks? If you don't mind please post this diet (along with your cardio and training plan) for us to look at.

My guess is that you probably weren't eating enough and after 4 weeks your body was screaming for a refeed. I would modify the plan to include 1-2 cheat meals per week and raise the overall calories. It is hard to say without seeing the plan but that is my initial reaction.

By the way - WELCOME! to MWA :)

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sic
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Join date: Dec 2004
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figurediva has some really good advice.

You know it is about modifying your behavior and your choices. You can't just turn it off but you can try to make consistent choices.

When you are emotional and you want something sweet, stop and ask yourself these questions;

Why do I want this food?

Will it really make me feel better (less lonely, sad, depressed, angry etc.)?

How will I feel after eating it?

I know that a lot of foods that we crave do have calming, soothing, or satisfying effects on the old brain... but so does exercise!

The food doesn't just hop in your mouth, you make a conscious decision to eat it... to keep eating it. So head it off at the beginning. Tell yourself you don't need it, don't want it, and will be better off without it. Then remove yourself from the situation. Go for a walk. Go to the gym. Go clothes shopping. Whatever works to get you out of the funk you are in.

Just remember that it is about small consistent changes in your behavior.

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Zap Branigan
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Brush your teeth if you feel a binge coming on. It makes it easier to resist eating junk if you have minty breath.

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Raziel
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Join date: Jul 2005
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I can relate. It's like you're not even hungry but you just keep eating whatever you find.

my only advise is to try to keep your blood sugar constant, don't try 0 carb during the week and carb up during the weekend that led me to unhealthy eating patterns just try to go low carb for a long period of time and that will help.

as for the emotional aspect that's the hardest, I know like if a girl calls me up nd says "I can't make it today bla bla sorry" the first thing I do is open the fridge

whenever I get anxious, depressed or confused I go look for something to eat like someone said it's really hard to break this behaviour has it's deep rooted in your personality my advise is whenever something like that happens or u feeling kinda down just get out and get as far away from your house and any place where you can get food. Just try to get your mind to stop thinkin about food

that's pretty much all the help I can give

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Yo Momma
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tightbunz wrote:
It's driving me insane ... I feel like a drug addict who needs rehab.


If this is TRULY the way you feel, then there is the possibility that you are headed out of control. Feelings of wanting to throw up after you binge may soon become so compulsive that they overcome all your willpower. See a therapist that specializes in eating disorders before a deadly habit forms.

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littleone
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Join date: Aug 2005
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Hi. I am a therapist and just came across your post. It might make sense to see a therapist so you can discover the reasons why you are an emotional eater.

It is very common. Just something for you to think about...alot of times eating disorders are because people are feeling out of control in some aspect of their lives so basically the only thing they can control is the food they put in their mouth or the food they let out (purging).

You might want to also keep a diary along with a food log so you can connect the two. I wish you the best.

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JuicyLucy
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littleone wrote:
Hi. I am a therapist and just came across your post. It might make sense to see a therapist so you can discover the reasons why you are an emotional eater.


It is very common. Just something for you to think about...alot of times eating disorders are because people are feeling out of control in some aspect of their lives so basically the only thing they can control is the food they put in their mouth or the food they let out (purging).

You might want to also keep a diary along with a food log so you can connect the two. I wish you the best.


Sound kind of nice " Emotional Eater". I like it. I would include myself into the group. When I'm distressed I go for binge eating as well. I can "inhale" 1 000 - 2 000 cal in one sitting easy. When I clean up my diet I see results very fast.

It's a nice thing to go for a walk or call a friend. That would only postpone the binging. From my experience I NEED to get full asap. If it can be a chemical mix I put in (e.g. processed food with lots of crap in it) the better.

I eat like shit when :
A. I am emotionally hurt - that would be the "trying to control things"
B. I'm starting a diet, when I'm imposing 'new beginning' upon me. Trying to get fed up with myself I suppose. Saying to myself : 'Today is the last day of eating crap, make the most out of it!'

Neither of these WORK.

So to make this short (too late for that:) what works for me, in order to avoid eating badly, I live on a deserted island and don't get in contact with anyone.

Just joking...

I try to plan ahead, write it down, prepare the food. When I feel like binging I do it with foods that will fill me up ( pudding, jelly ... ) anything that won't heart me and has lots of water in it.

Talking with yourself (=reasoning) helps as well. Having short time realistic goals, etc.
I don't have many answers. You need to find out what works for you.

I hope I helped somehow.
Best of luck.

PS. Don't feel guilty. The more attention you give it the bigger it becomes. Imagine how it would feel if you were eating healthy all the time. How you would look, what would people say, etc.

Try to reverse it.
What you think and what you feel and what manifests is always a match.
Watch a movie called 'The Secret'. If you want to know more.

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reagan123
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I can relate... I've dropped alot of weight in the last year and for have really struggled with binges since around january.

I can and will eat anything in my way at times... whole jar of pb... whole pizza... 12 donuts... etc in one day. My full trigger never hits.

I've been trying to analyze a bit and see what triggers this and here are a few culprits.

1. Eating too few calories.

2. Exercising too much without sufficient nutrition (relates to number one)

I do well avoiding it for weeks, but then I can honestly feel it coming and keep putting it off for days and then it hits...

Good luck... It's definitely tough. I may get flamed for this, but maybe try and loosen up the diet a bit for a week or 2 and see what happens. Denying everything from your diet causes many people to crave it more.

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proxy
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reagan123 wrote:
Good luck... It's definitely tough. I may get flamed for this, but maybe try and loosen up the diet a bit for a week or 2 and see what happens. Denying everything from your diet causes many people to crave it more.



Reagan, I think this is a great point. I find that often people who binge eat also have tendencies toward relentlessly regimental eating as well. Reagan's underlying point is that bouncing from one extreme to the other doesn't facilitate any sense of balance.

To add to the already great posts above, this is a really useful window for you to use. It tells you a lot more about yourself and your life and actually has little to do with food, itself. Counselling is so valuable for those times when you feel yourself straying from the path you chose and yet can't figure out exactly why...

This can be overcome with just a little time, support and effort. I wish you the best!

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tightbunz
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Join date: Jan 2006
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Thanks everybody for the great advice and support.

What makes it even more difficult for me is the fact that I don't live alone, so I don't get to choose what goes in my fridge. But good news is, I've successfully stopped my family members from buying junk food, bringing home McDonalds, using vegetable oil and doing anything else that'll throw me off of my meal plan or mess up my physique goals, so that's definitely helped a lot.

However, they occasionally bring home buns from the bakery, and just the smell of croissants alone can drive me nuts. What I binge on almost all the time though, are peanut butter sandwiches. I've had as much as 8-10 slices of whole wheat bread (that I've bought for my post-workout meals) with natural peanut butter in one sitting!

Also, what I've noticed about my binges is they occur mostly at night time. I usually stay strict meals 1 through 4, but when it comes to my 5th and last meals, I find myself stuffing my face with peanut butter sandwiches.

I've tried many things mentioned above, like brushing my teeth then heading to bed, but the craving almost always wins Colgate. I've tried watching TV series, but once the episode is over, food is all that comes to mind. I've tried going for a walk, but I ended up where? In a bakery...

And I can't walk at night cause I live in the city and I don't want to die yet. Even worse, I couldnt stop thinking about food when I was studying for my finals, and I'm an A student. I think thats one reason why I got a C- in one of my courses this semester ... =(

I havent binged since my first post here. I felt I should hold myself accountable. Perhaps I can make a post here whenever I feel like binging, or as mentioned, keep a blog/journal on my progress?

But anywho, being an active member of this bodybuilding community is great. I didn't know bodybuilders share the same problem. What's better than taking advice from the experienced and hearing what pros have got to say?

Thanks guys! I'll keep you updated!

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d wood
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Join date: Oct 2005
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Hi there and welcome.
I think we all share in some sort of eating disorder. We are surronded by food. I was actually speaking to my Dad (he is a Psychologist)today and we talked about exactly this.

We know a girl who was in FAME Toronto this year. She is a "former" anorexic turned figure competitor. WELL, I know she is not "cured" because of our personal family relationship. I don't think anyone is ever "cured", they are just in a constant state of recovery.

Eating disorders are much like any other disorders such as alcoholism except the key difference is you are constantly surrounded by food. We also need food to survive. We don't need alcohol to survive. Therefore we are in a tight situation to begin with.

I have struggled myself not with a diagnosed disorder, but with making the right food choices and not going nuts on junk at night, and when I do feeling overwhelmingly guilty.

I don't even know what advice to give you. I can just say we are TOTALLY with you. What helps me is a shift in my thinking. I have to eat right for my health first, body composition second. We all want to be healthy right?

So I made a pact with myself (now I am preg. so I enjoy things I normally wouldn't bec. that is what keeps the food down) I will choose the right foods that are healthy for me and I will try to learn to actually enjoy them. I actually began enjoying the oatmeal treat on PWO days.

Get innovative and exciting with spices and flavours. Embrace the lifestyle. Get the "diet" out of our vocabulary.
This is an ongoing, never ending battle many of us face, including myself.
Just know you are not alone.
D

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d wood
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tightbunz wrote:
I didn't know bodybuilders share the same problem. What's better than taking advice from the experienced and hearing what pros have got to say?


This is key. I actually believe that A HUGE percentage of bodybuilders are indeed suffering from many different eating disorders. Bodybuilding (like the girl I mentioned in my last post) is often times just another type of eating disorder or a "legitimate" eating disorder. Many are so focused on body composition they will go to ANY length to achieve results (ie. dehydration, zero carbs) all of which are not healthy.

We have to be careful. We want to be healthy and active and acheive our own results that are best for us. We do not just want to fall into another type of body dismorphia disorder or other, thinking it is good for us because it involves olive oil and weight training.

As proxy said (so wisely as usual), counselling is really the only way to peel off the layers and get to the root of the problem. All the body building and excercising and "healthy lifestyle" will not stick unless the underlying problem is solved.
Good luck and we will be here for you.
Sincerely,
D

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