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paul_b
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I was thinking of starting the Total-Body Training(The 3-day-per-week, full-body workout plan)by Chad Waterbury and I was just curious what you guys thought of putting cardio in the mornings and on the off weight training days.

I was thinking of something like this, but I am also thinking it is too much cardio:

MON-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
TUE-Hiit cardio (running).
WED-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
THU-Hiit cardio (running).
FRI-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
SAT-Hiit cardio(running).
SUN-OFF.

What do you think? Too much cardio, or should I just do MON,WED,FRE - fullbody workout, and TUE,THU,SAT - cardio, switching between Hiit and jogs.

thanks,

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Shadowzz4
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Your not going to be able to push yourself during your lifting sessions with that much running in your routine period and especially HIIT before your lifting on the same day is definitely unadvisable. The only thing this program would be good for is caloric expenditure, you can forget building any strength or lean mass, there is just too much going on. Here is an example of a routine that would stress you, has good caloric expenditure and will allow for recovery. Now with this workout Im assuming you are at least moderately strong/experienced and that your trying to lose weight. If you are a beginner you may even be able to do your routine because you are not training intensely enough to have to worry as much about recovery, but it still wouldnt be optimal. Anyway here you go:

Day1- Whole Body, Heavy
Day2-
Day3- moderate activity
Day4- Whole Body, Repetition
Day5- light activity
Day6- Whole Body, Complex
Day7-
Day8- moderate activity

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eengrms76
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paul_b wrote:
I was thinking of starting the Total-Body Training(The 3-day-per-week, full-body workout plan)by Chad Waterbury and I was just curious what you guys thought of putting cardio in the mornings and on the off weight training days.

I was thinking of something like this, but I am also thinking it is too much cardio:

MON-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
TUE-Hiit cardio (running).
WED-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
THU-Hiit cardio (running).
FRI-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
SAT-Hiit cardio(running).
SUN-OFF.

What do you think? Too much cardio, or should I just do MON,WED,FRE - fullbody workout, and TUE,THU,SAT - cardio, switching between Hiit and jogs.

thanks,


To critique your actual plan I would agree with you that it's too much cardio, but then you didn't really say whether your goal was fat loss or mass gain. I'll assume that it's fat loss...

I would just drop the jogging on training days. The HIIT in-between workouts should be sufficient. You also need to make sure that you are eating enough to support this activity level. If you're dieting, which I assume, then chances are you are not taking in enough calories and will kill your progress.

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paul_b
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I am trying for fat loss.

I was thinking maybe of just doing fullbody on MON,WED,FRI and doing cardio on TUE,THUR,SAT. Maybe switching between longer jogs, HIIT, and shorter quicker jogs.

I am currently on a diet. High protein, moderate carbs and fats. I eat really clean. Eating 2-3 meals, and 2-3 snacks per day consisting of fruit or veggies with a protein shake.

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eengrms76
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Don't call them snacks...

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pittbulll
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Your program would be over training to me

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eengrms76
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pittbulll wrote:
Your program would be over training to me


There is some merit to this comment. Three full body workouts a week is a little much, however as long as he switches exercise priority between workouts it shouldn't be too bad. He won't always be doing the same thing first, but mixing it up. Squatting as a priority one day, deadlifting the next, etc. Say the first three to four exercises would be priority, the rest just supplemental for that day with lighter weights.

Not sure if he's doing that, but he should.

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paul_b wrote:
I was thinking of starting the Total-Body Training(The 3-day-per-week, full-body workout plan)by Chad Waterbury and I was just curious what you guys thought of putting cardio in the mornings and on the off weight training days.

I was thinking of something like this, but I am also thinking it is too much cardio:

MON-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
TUE-Hiit cardio (running).
WED-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
THU-Hiit cardio (running).
FRI-Morning-20min jog/Evening-fullbody
SAT-Hiit cardio(running).
SUN-OFF.

What do you think? Too much cardio, or should I just do MON,WED,FRE - fullbody workout, and TUE,THU,SAT - cardio, switching between Hiit and jogs.

thanks,



Training goal?

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I'd take it easy on the hiit. That plus full body 3x a week means your killing your legs 6x a week. I don't know what your conditioning is but I'd cut back one of each.

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paul_b
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I am training for endurance, and fat loss. I love running that is why I tried to squeeze so much in.

If I were to run in the morning, because of my work schedule I have more then 12 hours between morning runs and evening workouts.

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paul_b
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What do you guys think if I had two days in between, like this...

MON-morning run/evening fullbody.
TUES-HIT
WED -off

if I just cyceled two days between workouts instead.

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eengrms76
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I think you should just try whatever you feel most comfortable with and stick with it for a few weeks to see how it works out. Everyone responds differently to training so maybe you will be fine, maybe you'll be really tired. How do you if you don't try. I'd aim high at this point with the option of backing off rather than aiming low.

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paul_b
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eengrms76 - that is good advice. For the first 2 weeks I will just be doing the TBT, most likely without the cardio. Maybe put it in after that.
I will try it both ways, working M/W/F and also cycling M/Th/Sun, every 2 days.

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