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Hawkson101
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Every night I get a craving for carbs

Ice cream, cookies, mac and cheese, pasta

you name it, it sounds good
during the day this craving isn't really there, but at night its on full throttle.

However, T-Nation for the most part says 'dont eat carbs at night' It seems like my body is asking for carbs at night. Possibly, an insulin spike followed by a crash would put me to bed.

Does anyone else get a carb craving before bed? If so, why then are we not supposed to eat carbs at night if our bodies desire carbs?


BTW-goals are the usual, get stronger and bigger and lost fat...all at the same time

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Miserere
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Hawkson101 wrote:
Does anyone else get a carb craving before bed?


Yesss!!!! (Are you my twin brother?)

If so, why then are we not supposed to eat carbs at night if our bodies desire carbs?


I'll sit here with you and wait for the answer, if you don't mind.

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Miserere wrote:
Hawkson101 wrote:
Does anyone else get a carb craving before bed?

Yesss!!!! (Are you my twin brother?)

If so, why then are we not supposed to eat carbs at night if our bodies desire carbs?

I'll sit here with you and wait for the answer, if you don't mind.


I think everyone feels this way to a degree. We want food before bed, probably because our body subconsciously knows that it will be starved for the next 6-9 hours.

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If you're craving carbs at night maybe it's because you're not eating enough during the day. Usually if I start craving foods it's because I'm not overeating enough clean foods.
And by the way I don't know if you're body is craving carbs so much as your mind is ;P

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You're craving junk food at night. Sounds like you're on a diet that you don't want to be on. Did you recently start eating healthier? It takes a while for your mind to stop craving crap, and until it does most cravings come at night. Learn to shut them out.

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I just got done reading "Gironda Gems" which has a bunch of Q&A from Vince Gironda. And someone asked Vince this same question.... his reply was that they were not getting enough healthy fats in their diet. So thats what Vince thinks about those sugar cravings :-).

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firestanggt
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You don;t want carbs at night because they cause a spike in insulin levels and since your metabolism is lower later in the day, this leads to more fat storage. Carbs in the morning and fat at night. Unless you lift in the evening, then you would want carbs in the PWO shake and the following meal.


Hawkson101 wrote:


However, T-Nation for the most part says 'dont eat carbs at night' It seems like my body is asking for carbs at night. Possibly, an insulin spike followed by a crash would put me to bed.

Does anyone else get a carb craving before bed? If so, why then are we not supposed to eat carbs at night if our bodies desire carbs?


BTW-goals are the usual, get stronger and bigger and lost fat...all at the same time


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Miserere
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Bizmark wrote:
I just got done reading "Gironda Gems" which has a bunch of Q&A from Vince Gironda. And someone asked Vince this same question.... his reply was that they were not getting enough healthy fats in their diet. So thats what Vince thinks about those sugar cravings :-).


Interesting... My cravings are not for sugar (I'm not a sweet junkie by any means), but for carbs like rice or bread. Even if I eat a huge chicken salad (with avocados) I still feel hungry.

And this has nothing to do with dieting, it's always happened to me. I started eating healthy about 3 years ago, and don't crave junk food; I always thought these evening carb cravings would subside, but they never have. I consume plenty of fish/flaxseed oils, but maybe I need to take more.

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Here's a solution I got from Poliquin:

Add a tablespoon of glutamine to about 2oz heavy cream (35-40%) and shoot it back. It works great!

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Bizmark wrote:
I just got done reading "Gironda Gems" which has a bunch of Q&A from Vince Gironda. And someone asked Vince this same question.... his reply was that they were not getting enough healthy fats in their diet. So thats what Vince thinks about those sugar cravings :-).


Vince was ahead of his time! ;)

I was going to suggest the same thing. More healthy fats.

In fact, the OP would benefit from eating a snack before bed consisting of protein and good fats. It will keep him full and satisfied and stop the cravings.

I've found that a peanut butter protein shake is one of the best snacks. However, even some cottage cheese with some pineapple works. Or a protein shake and some raw nuts (almonds or walnuts).

Try this shake straight from Precision Nutrition (I made a few minor changes - I added more butterscotch and peanut butter than originally recommended so you can actually taste it):

1 scoop Metabolic Drive
2 tbsp natural peanut butter
1/3 cup cottage cheese
2 tbsp flax seeds
1 tbsp butterscotch fat free/sugar-free jello pudding (powder)

Mix this in a blender with some water and ice until smooth. Take some Greens+ with it to make it a supershake (I take the caps instead of the powder).

It tastes awesome, fills you up and takes care of any cravings!

Even if you are someone that hates cottage cheese, you won't ever taste it or know that it's in the shake. But it truly makes the shake because it gives it a creamy texture and holds everything together.

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Hawkson, it might be interesting to see how your body responded to supplementing wit 5-HTP at night, to see whether reduced or eliminated your cravings. 5-HTP is derived from tryptophan (an amino acid). From there it is converted into serotonin, and the pineal gland then converts serotonin into melatonin, a sleep-inducing hormone.

Since carbs raise serotonin levels, too, it may just be your body's way of encouraging you to eat things that will help you sleep.

That said, all the advice thus far is excellent, and I'd definitely give it some consideration.

The only caveat for supplementing with 5-HTP is that it should probably not be taken by anyone taking an SSRI or antidepressant ... at least not without making sure your doc and/or pharmacist are on board with it, anyway.

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Cathy125
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I have been wanting to ask someone that uses "Greens" - Does the veggie taste come thru in the shakes?

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Nate Dogg wrote:
Try this shake straight from Precision Nutrition (I made a few minor changes - I added more butterscotch pudding and peanut butter than originally recommended so you can actually taste it):

1 scoop Metabolic Drive
2 tbsp natural peanut butter
1/3 cup cottage cheese
2 tbsp flax seeds
1 tbsp butterscotch fat free/sugar-free jello pudding


Nate, would that 1 tbsp of butterscotch jello be prepared jello? (that is, not the powder.) Do you normally just have butterscotch jello hanging around your fridge? :-)

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I had the same problem. Every night I really wanted black coffee and ice cream -- most of the time I'd indulge. I wasn't putting on fat from it and my sleep didn't seem particularly compromised, so I was able to justify my continued habit. Eventually, I just got sick of ignoring that little nagging doubt about the habit and just stopped indulging. I can't say I miss it at all.

The main things I did to destroy this habit was upping the fish oil and olive oil, doubling my protein intake to 2g/lb mass and removing sugar entirely from my diet. Blood sugar is lowest at night in anyone and this difference is made more severe when there are erratic glucose levels throughout the day. If you can minimize the drama of the blood sugar fluctuations, the cravings will probably just go away.

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Puny@138 wrote:
If you can minimize the drama of the blood sugar fluctuations, the cravings will probably just go away.


That is interesting. Thanks.

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Miserere wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:
Try this shake straight from Precision Nutrition (I made a few minor changes - I added more butterscotch pudding and peanut butter than originally recommended so you can actually taste it):

1 scoop Metabolic Drive
2 tbsp natural peanut butter
1/3 cup cottage cheese
2 tbsp flax seeds
1 tbsp butterscotch fat free/sugar-free jello pudding

Nate, would that 1 tbsp of butterscotch jello be prepared jello? (that is, not the powder.) Do you normally just have butterscotch jello hanging around your fridge? :-)


That recipe is from JB's Precision Nutrition, and it is awesome. The Jello he is talking about is the instant sugar free powder, unless I have been making the shake wrong.

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GreenTerror79
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Yeah the cravings suck but a lot of people get them, just suck it up and not eat. Doing this for a while and not giving in helped me and now I dont like to eat at all at night.

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mithious
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I agree with stabalizing blood sugar.

Upping complex carbs in the morning and afternoon is simple, and larger quantities of protien at night will help fill you up.

I get hungry every night. Not carb cravings, but everything cravings. And I still have some carbs, not none.

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Nate Dogg
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Nick10 wrote:
Miserere wrote:
Nate Dogg wrote:
Try this shake straight from Precision Nutrition (I made a few minor changes - I added more butterscotch pudding and peanut butter than originally recommended so you can actually taste it):

1 scoop Metabolic Drive
2 tbsp natural peanut butter
1/3 cup cottage cheese
2 tbsp flax seeds
1 tbsp butterscotch fat free/sugar-free jello pudding

Nate, would that 1 tbsp of butterscotch jello be prepared jello? (that is, not the powder.) Do you normally just have butterscotch jello hanging around your fridge? :-)

That recipe is from JB's Precision Nutrition, and it is awesome. The Jello he is talking about is the instant sugar free powder, unless I have been making the shake wrong.


Yes, it's the fat free sugar free jello POWDER that you add to the shake. You don't prepare the jello ahead of time. Just add a few teaspoons or tablespoons to the shake for the flavoring.

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Miserere
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Nate Dogg wrote:
Yes, it's the fat free sugar free jello POWDER that you add to the shake. You don't prepare the jello ahead of time. Just add a few teaspoons or tablespoons to the shake for the flavoring.


Now that is something I can do :-)

If I had to prepare the damn jello ahead of time to use it, I wasn't going to drinking this any time soon.

Thanks Nate!

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Eat more FATS, that will lower your cravings.

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Hawkson101 wrote:
Every night I get a craving for carbs

Ice cream, cookies, mac and cheese, pasta

you name it, it sounds good
during the day this craving isn't really there, but at night its on full throttle.

However, T-Nation for the most part says 'dont eat carbs at night' It seems like my body is asking for carbs at night. Possibly, an insulin spike followed by a crash would put me to bed.

Does anyone else get a carb craving before bed? If so, why then are we not supposed to eat carbs at night if our bodies desire carbs?


BTW-goals are the usual, get stronger and bigger and lost fat...all at the same time


your body wants what it has been getting. if you are trying to create a change in your body, you need to change your diet. you first make the changes in your head, force your body to go along and then your body adjusts to your new program and diet.


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I get this all the time as well. I agree with what most of what is being given for advice.

I, like, Miserere consume enough healthy fats during the day, however; at night I begin to crave carbs.

I have found that the answer for me, like others have said, is to eat a protein and fat snack.

I had this happen last night and I ate half a boneless skinless chicken breast with melted swiss cheese and the craving went away.

I find that if I give in to the carb craving, it is only temporarily satisfied and I end up craving more carbs again.

P/F is definately the answer for me. Hope that helps.

Michelle

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scotty144
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Kill'Em All wrote:
Eat more FATS, that will lower your cravings.


No workie.

I have the same problem...I have no issues at all eating clean but at night...the cravings...my God!

I get plenty of healthy fats ...45g fish oil...red meat etc.

I will have to try that butterscotch pudding thing...sound delicious.

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Miserere
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Nate Dogg wrote:
Yes, it's the fat free sugar free jello POWDER that you add to the shake. You don't prepare the jello ahead of time. Just add a few teaspoons or tablespoons to the shake for the flavoring.


It took me a while to get a hold of the jello powder (they were out when I went shopping last week), but they had it yesterday, and I just prepared one of these shakes for dinner.

Only one difference, I used Cookies'n'Cream, cos I have no use for Vanilla protein powder. Dude, it's delicious! I don't know how, but it tastes like this pecan ice cream that I used to love. I also didn't use too much water (400 ml) and added ice cubes, so it's thick and cold. I wonder if I could freeze it...?

I'll be having more of these for dinner in the future.

Thanks Nate!

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